The Mess Is the Message: What to Catch Before You Bid
- Gage Jaeger

- Aug 5
- 4 min read
Updated: Aug 6

Every contractor has heard it. The client smiles and waves at the cluttered garage, attic, crawlspace, or basement and says,
“Don’t worry — we’ll have all this moved out before you come back to spray.”
Spoiler: they won’t.
And if you build your quote based on what the space should look like instead of what it actually is, you’re setting yourself up to either eat labor time… or send an awkward text asking for more money.
Accurate spray foam estimates don’t come from wishful thinking. They come from structured walkthroughs, realistic expectations, and a process that catches those red flags before they show up on spray day.
In this post, we’ll walk through the step-by-step estimating workflow that protects your time, margin, and sanity — no matter what kind of garage you walk into.
Start by Listening, Not Measuring
Before you break out your tape measure, start with a conversation. Ask the client what their goal is: energy savings, code compliance, moisture control, comfort? Clarify what they actually want foamed — walls and roof? Crawlspace only? “The back part of the house”? If you miss this step, you’ll miss the scope — and that’s how underbids and callbacks happen.
Document the Structure Like You Mean It
Once the scope is clear, gather the measurements — and not just dimensions. Note wall height, slope, substrate type, crawlspace access, ceiling pitches, and anything else that affects material usage or access. Don’t rely on memory. Use your phone to take photos, sketch layout zones, or even record voice notes.
The goal is to capture enough detail that you could hand the project off to someone else — and they’d get it right.
Spot the Substrate and Trouble Spots
A structure’s surface changes the spray game entirely. Spraying onto OSB? Clean and straightforward. Spraying onto ribbed metal? You just picked up an extra 10–15% surface area, plus more masking and yield loss. Walk the job with an eye for what’s going to eat your time, burn through foam, or require a second day on-site.
Don’t forget the red flags: high ceilings with no scaffolding, rooms packed with furniture, “we’ll move this before you come” zones. If it looks like a mess now, price for it accordingly.
Discuss Foam Type and Application Plan
This is where many estimators skip a step. Never assume the client understands the difference between open-cell and closed-cell — or where one is more appropriate than the other.
Have a quick, clear conversation about what type of foam you’re planning to use in which areas, and why. Explain it in terms of performance, moisture control, and code compliance — not just cost. The goal is alignment now, not backpedaling later.
Confirm Access and Job Readiness
Will your rig fit? Can you run hose where you need to? Is there power or water available on-site? Has other trade work already started — or stalled? These aren’t minor logistics — they’re the difference between a smooth job and a day lost to rescheduling.
Ask when they think the job will be ready — then build in a cushion. Because “next week” often means “next month.”
Build the Quote While It’s Fresh
Once you’ve walked the job and gathered everything you need, don’t wait. Build the quote the same day — or better yet, while you’re still there.
If you’re using Foambid or another mobile tool, enter the data live during your walkthrough. That way, you’re pricing based on reality, not memory. You can adjust for foam type, layer thickness, substrate loss, and labor — and present a clear, professional estimate without the 10 p.m. math scramble. Personally, I suck at this one — but I've definitely found greater success when I get those bids out earlier rather than later!
Communicate the Scope — Without the Overkill
When it’s time to share the quote, keep it tight. Explain what’s included, confirm foam types and thicknesses, and mention that you’ve accounted for site conditions. Don’t over-itemize or over-disclose. The more line items you present, the more opportunities you give for second-guessing.
Instead, say something like:
“This quote includes two inches of closed-cell foam on the walls, three inches on the roof deck, all masking and prep, plus a buffer for coverage on the ribbed steel panels. This reflects what we measured on-site today — no surprises later.”
That’s how you set expectations and close with confidence.
A Solid Process = Fewer Surprises
Estimating shouldn’t feel like a new challenge every time. When you have a structured walkthrough process, your numbers get better, your quotes get faster, and your jobs run smoother. You don’t win on price — you win on clarity.
Every contractor has their own rhythm. But if you walk the job, ask the right questions, document the details, and quote while the info’s fresh, you’ll stand out — not just as the guy who sprayed it right, but the one who bid it right too.

by Gage Jaeger, Owner and Founder of Foambid



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